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	<title>Comments on: Anarchism: Utopian vs. Practical</title>
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	<description>Government is immoral, unnecessary, and doesn&#039;t work!</description>
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		<title>By: Matt Matlock</title>
		<link>http://libertariananarchy.com/2008/11/anarchism-utopian-vs-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-4294</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Matlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 00:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh bless the internet.  The only place in the world where you can come into a conversation months after it started.

Osho&#039;s argument is completely invalid.  Simply, the brute barbarous people he is so concerned with desire money and the power that stems from it.  A simple question to ask is, where is the most power and money to be gained?

Why, the simple, obvious and correct answer is - In the Government.

So long as he believes that man is this barbarous creature that needs to be controlled, his support for Government is ridiculous.  These people will FLOCK into Government work where the initiation of force is not only encouraged but REQUIRED.  It is the fundamental concept that Government, The State, is built on - a group of people claiming the legal right to initiate force.  Of course, any thinking person knows this is absolutely ridiculous, immoral and unethical.

Plus, if Government is an entity of men which has certain powers delegated to them by the masses then they can have no power that those masses do not themselves possess.  

NO HUMAN BEING has the right to initiate force.  Therefore, they could not have delegated that power to &quot;Government&quot; which leads us, finally, to the realization that The State, in any form, is an illegitimate mafia.

They exist and thrive because they implicitly, and often explicitly, state that if you do not obey us you will be murdered.

Aaaaahhh, what a wonderful institution protecting us against the ravages of those bloodthirsty barbarous humans.

Wait, he is scared that, without a government, he will be robbed and murdered if he refuses.  Well, that&#039;s what will happen with the Government.

He&#039;s afraid that he will be enslaved and raped without a Government. Well, the government will lock you up in a work camp where you are almost surely going to be raped.  Of course, people joke about THAT kind of rape so it must no be as bad.

The argument falls flat on its face because, so long as there is a government, it will be full of the most insane, evil, power hungry, greedy, lying bastards that nature can produce.  

I&#039;m not worried about the crackhead who will run at the first sight of my 1911 - I&#039;m worried about the black clad ninja stormtroopers who will open fire with their automatic weapons (which they are blessed by the government and allowed to possess) at the first sight of my 1911.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh bless the internet.  The only place in the world where you can come into a conversation months after it started.</p>
<p>Osho&#8217;s argument is completely invalid.  Simply, the brute barbarous people he is so concerned with desire money and the power that stems from it.  A simple question to ask is, where is the most power and money to be gained?</p>
<p>Why, the simple, obvious and correct answer is &#8211; In the Government.</p>
<p>So long as he believes that man is this barbarous creature that needs to be controlled, his support for Government is ridiculous.  These people will FLOCK into Government work where the initiation of force is not only encouraged but REQUIRED.  It is the fundamental concept that Government, The State, is built on &#8211; a group of people claiming the legal right to initiate force.  Of course, any thinking person knows this is absolutely ridiculous, immoral and unethical.</p>
<p>Plus, if Government is an entity of men which has certain powers delegated to them by the masses then they can have no power that those masses do not themselves possess.  </p>
<p>NO HUMAN BEING has the right to initiate force.  Therefore, they could not have delegated that power to &#8220;Government&#8221; which leads us, finally, to the realization that The State, in any form, is an illegitimate mafia.</p>
<p>They exist and thrive because they implicitly, and often explicitly, state that if you do not obey us you will be murdered.</p>
<p>Aaaaahhh, what a wonderful institution protecting us against the ravages of those bloodthirsty barbarous humans.</p>
<p>Wait, he is scared that, without a government, he will be robbed and murdered if he refuses.  Well, that&#8217;s what will happen with the Government.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s afraid that he will be enslaved and raped without a Government. Well, the government will lock you up in a work camp where you are almost surely going to be raped.  Of course, people joke about THAT kind of rape so it must no be as bad.</p>
<p>The argument falls flat on its face because, so long as there is a government, it will be full of the most insane, evil, power hungry, greedy, lying bastards that nature can produce.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not worried about the crackhead who will run at the first sight of my 1911 &#8211; I&#8217;m worried about the black clad ninja stormtroopers who will open fire with their automatic weapons (which they are blessed by the government and allowed to possess) at the first sight of my 1911.</p>
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		<title>By: Community Conversions &#124; Libertarian Anarchy</title>
		<link>http://libertariananarchy.com/2008/11/anarchism-utopian-vs-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-56</link>
		<dc:creator>Community Conversions &#124; Libertarian Anarchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 04:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Osho, Steve thinks that positive change can only come about through a mental evolution, a raising of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Gogulski</title>
		<link>http://libertariananarchy.com/2008/11/anarchism-utopian-vs-practical/comment-page-1/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Gogulski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wild applause. The thing I don&#039;t get with the argument that Osho and others advance is the idea that if people are generally so corrupt or of such low consciousness that they can&#039;t handle anarchy, then necessarily some of them must be selected to be endowed with a monopoly of corruption... and that somehow then the state will one day &quot;wither away&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wild applause. The thing I don&#8217;t get with the argument that Osho and others advance is the idea that if people are generally so corrupt or of such low consciousness that they can&#8217;t handle anarchy, then necessarily some of them must be selected to be endowed with a monopoly of corruption&#8230; and that somehow then the state will one day &#8220;wither away&#8221;.</p>
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